Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/05/2004 09:04 AM Senate FIN

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     CS FOR HOUSE BILL NO. 459(STA)                                                                                             
     "An Act relating to optically scanned and electronically                                                                   
     generated ballots; and providing for an effective date."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
This  was the first  hearing  for this  bill in  the Senate  Finance                                                            
Committee.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken  stated  this  bill,  sponsored  by Representative                                                             
Harris, "requires  an electronic voting  machine to produce  a paper                                                            
record of the votes that are cast."                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CINDY SMITH,  Staff to Representative  Les Gara, presented  the bill                                                            
on behalf  of Representative  Gara  and Representative  Harris.  She                                                            
testified  that this  bill  would require  a  voter-verified  "paper                                                            
trail"   for  touch  screen   voting  machines.   There  have   been                                                            
significant  problems with  the touch  screen voting  machines  in a                                                            
number of  states. Presently,  if the machines  malfunction or  if a                                                            
vote  recount  is  required  there  is  not a  paper  ballot  or  an                                                            
equivalent  paper record  available for reference.  This bill  would                                                            
require, as soon  as the technology is available,  that touch screen                                                            
voting  machines provide  a paper  printout  to be  verified by  the                                                            
voter.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  understood that electronic voting would  be more time                                                            
efficient and  less expensive than the current paper  ballot system.                                                            
He asserted  that  it is "counterintuitive"  to  institute a  modern                                                            
electronic voting system  and then require the use of old methods to                                                            
support it.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Smith  responded by telling  of various  instances in which  the                                                            
new voting  machines  have failed  to record  votes.  A paper  trail                                                            
would serve  as an audit device to  provide a record of the  voter's                                                            
intent  in the  event that  a  malfunction occurs  or  a recount  is                                                            
required.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde understood  the concerns,  and asked  if the  current                                                            
paper  ballot voting  method  provided  ballots  in the  event of  a                                                            
recount.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
LAURA  GLAISER,  Director,  Division  of Elections,  Office  of  the                                                            
Lieutenant  Governor, confirmed that  the current system  allows the                                                            
paper ballots  to be used in a recount. The paper  trail proposed in                                                            
this legislation  would serve as a form of audit for  the electronic                                                            
voting machines in the event of a recount.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  asked why  it is necessary  to use electronic  voting                                                            
machines  if  a  paper  equivalent  of  the  votes  would  still  be                                                            
required.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Glaiser replied that  the federal Help America Vote Act requires                                                            
the State  to  have touch  screen voting  machines  in every  voting                                                            
precinct  by 2006. Alaska  State law  also provides  for the  use of                                                            
touch screen voting  machines. She clarified that  efficiency is not                                                            
the only  benefit of electronic  voting machines;  they also  enable                                                            
the blind and disabled to vote unassisted.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde asked how  the blind would be able to fill out a touch                                                            
screen ballot  if they are unable  to use the current paper  ballot.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Glaiser explained that  the touch screen voting machines contain                                                            
an audio  device  and a keypad  the blind  can use  to record  their                                                            
vote.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bunde asked if  the State  would lose  federal funds  if it                                                            
refused to utilize  the touch screen voting machines.  He also asked                                                            
the amount of  funding the federal government was  supplying for the                                                            
purchase and implementation of the electronic machines.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Glaiser  answered, yes, that $5  million has been received,  and                                                            
another $11 million is expected from the federal government.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  asked the difference between the federal  funding and                                                            
the cost of implementing a paper audit system.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Glaiser  answered  that she does  not know  that dollar  amount;                                                            
however the  federal funding  is "no year"  funding, which  could be                                                            
expended  any time.  The  State would  not  replace  all the  voting                                                            
machines at once so the  optical scan and paper ballot methods would                                                            
continue to be used.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Wilken noted the  fiscal note cost  of this bill  would be                                                            
almost $443,000 in FY 05,  and $1.8 million each subsequent election                                                            
year.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson  asked  how  the  State  could  avoid  a "convoluted                                                             
situation"  such as  that which  occurred  in the  State of  Florida                                                            
during the presidential election of 2000.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Glaiser replied  that the State of Alaska has  always had a good                                                            
record  regarding  the voting  process.  The Division  of  Elections                                                            
would  do  nothing  to jeopardize  the  integrity  of  the  election                                                            
process. The touch screen  voting machines would be implemented on a                                                            
limited  basis. Today  the Election  Assistance  Commission met  and                                                            
took testimony  on the touch screen voting equipment,  demonstrating                                                            
that the  State is not  alone in questioning  the accuracy  of these                                                            
voting  machines. The  State's voting  process is  reviewed by  such                                                            
entities  as  the bipartisan  State  Review  Board  and independent                                                             
AccuVote  review  boards  in  each  of  the  election  regions.  The                                                            
Division is  confident that the State  would catch any anomalies  in                                                            
the electronic  voting  machines,  because of  the State's  thorough                                                            
review  and  testing processes.  However,  because  the  new  voting                                                            
system relies  on technology  and an inaccessible  source code,  the                                                            
possibility exists that an unforeseen error could occur.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  if a credible  recount is  possible under  the                                                            
touch screen voting method.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Glaiser responded  that the voter verified paper  trail proposed                                                            
by this legislation is  an attempt to ensure a credible recount. The                                                            
touch  screen voting  machines have  been certified  by the  Federal                                                            
Election Commission,  and are considered to have a  sufficient audit                                                            
trail;  however,  there are  examples,  such as  that  cited by  Ms.                                                            
Smith, that the audit trail is not adequate.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson asked  how  many State  voting precincts  would  have                                                            
touch screen voting machines in the next election.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Glaiser  estimated  that  the State  currently  has  439  voter                                                            
precincts.  Every precinct  would be required  to have at least  one                                                            
touch screen voting machine for the 2006 election.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator Hoffman  inquired  about the size  and the storage  location                                                            
for the touch screen voting  machines. He was specifically concerned                                                            
with the storage location in outlying rural communities.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Glaiser  responded that the touch  screen voting machines  weigh                                                            
approximately  30  pounds.  The  machines  would  be mailed  to  the                                                            
precincts  and  subsequently   returned  to  regional   Division  of                                                            
Elections  offices  for  storage.  Occasionally   municipalities  or                                                            
boroughs  would store  voting machines  for the  precincts in  their                                                            
communities.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  assumed the State would  not receive the paper  voter                                                            
verification  if  produced,   but  rather  the  voter  would  assume                                                            
possession  of the verification.  Therefore,  if a recount  occurred                                                            
the Division  of Elections  would have to  rely on voters to  submit                                                            
their paper  verifications. He did  not understand how this  process                                                            
could be trusted to accurately recapture votes.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Smith corrected  that the paper verification would  be submitted                                                            
to the election officials  in the manner paper ballots are currently                                                            
submitted.  Voters would review the  paper verifications,  but would                                                            
not take possession of them.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Glaiser further  detailed that the touch screen  voting machines                                                            
would print a paper confirmation  of the votes electronically placed                                                            
by the voter.  The voter would verify  the accuracy of the  printout                                                            
using a  command on  the touch  screen. After  being confirmed,  the                                                            
print  out would  finish printing.  Two  records of  the votes  cast                                                            
would then exist:  the record on the machine's memory  card, and the                                                            
paper printout.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde  questioned the  ability of a  blind voter to  confirm                                                            
the paper verification  unassisted. He stated his  opposition to the                                                            
implementation  of the touch  screen voting  machine in its  current                                                            
design.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DANIEL LYNCH testified  via teleconference from Kenai  that he would                                                            
recommend  an amendment  allowing only  the blind  to use the  touch                                                            
screen voting  machines. The  U.S. is founded  on the idea  that one                                                            
man equals  one vote. Citizens' ability  to vote must be  "cherished                                                            
and protected"  because it is one of the few original  freedoms that                                                            
could still be  exercised. For over 200 years a voting  method using                                                            
paper  and   writing  utensils  was   sufficient,  and  it   remains                                                            
sufficient.  He concluded by urging  the Committee: "Please  protect                                                            
our democracy; don't add to the apathy."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator  B.  Stevens  offered  a motion  to  report  the  bill  from                                                            
Committee with  individual recommendations  and accompanying  fiscal                                                            
note.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bunde objected.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
A roll call was taken on the motion.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
IN  FAVOR:  Senator B.  Stevens,  Senator  Dyson,  Senator  Hoffman,                                                            
Senator Olson, and Co-Chair Wilken                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
OPPOSED: Senator Bunde                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
ABSENT: Co-Chair Green                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
The motion PASSED (5-1-1)                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CS  HB 459  (STA)  MOVED from  Committee  with  fiscal  note #1  for                                                            
$442,800 from the Office of the Governor.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                

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